AI is transforming the world of work. Curious about the latest developments for legal and business professionals? Check out eBrevia’s new Lens feature, a major enhancement to its Contract Analyzer product. eBrevia Lens empowers legal and business professionals to quickly extract information and gain insights across thousands of contracts using natural language. To use Lens, users simply type in a question, and eBrevia’s generative AI technology reads the documents and supplies answers. When a highly tailored approach is necessary, eBrevia Lens includes the capability to train a model. eBrevia Lens taps into context from clients’ documents to deliver a high level of accuracy, and bolsters workflows so employees can focus on high-value tasks.

Read more here, or visit the eBrevia team at booth #3120 to learn about Lens and innovations currently in beta.


Winnow’s Innovative Compliance Platform Now Available to Law Firms

The Company Aims to Help Legal Professionals Embrace a Proactive Compliance Approach

Winnow, a leader in regulatory compliance technology, announced today that its dynamic automated compliance product is now available to law firms. Previously accessible to other industries, their powerful compliance platform will now meet the demanding needs of legal professionals, helping them efficiently manage regulatory changes, reduce compliance risks, and increase focus on driving revenue.

Winnow enables customers to build highly tailored state and federal compliance surveys unique to their business type, licensing, financial products, and jurisdictions. It covers a broad range of laws and regulations applicable to the lifecycle of mortgages, auto financing, banking, credit cards, consumer financing, and commercial lending. Winnow monitors for changes and notifies the customer in advance of the regulation taking effect.

“Expanding our award-winning compliance technology to law firms represents a significant milestone,” said Chris Hilliard, CEO of Winnow. “We’ve always envisioned bringing our compliance solution to law firms, and it was simply a matter of finding the right moment. We firmly believe this move will allow legal professionals to reduce risk, save time, and focus more strategically on client outcomes.”

Winnow was initially incubated within the Buckley law firm, which combined with Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe in early 2023. Over 140 attorneys have invested tens of thousands of hours into curating Winnow’s over 80,000 individual state and federal requirements. Until now, Winnow has been available solely to banks, credit unions, and non-bank customers such as fintech lenders.

The company announced its recent expansion at Legalweek in New York, where over 6,000 attendees are expected to converge at the “leading conference for the legal technology industry.” Winnow is also nominated twice at the Legalweek Awards in the “Best Emerging Technology (Non-AI)” and “New Law Company of the Year” categories for technology providers.

Winnow offers flexible subscription plans or the ability to pay per survey. Law firms interested in experiencing Winnow firsthand can request a free trial at www.winnow.law/lawfirms.

About Winnow:

Winnow Solutions, LLC is the developer of Winnow ®, a database-driven RegTech platform that provides subscribers with accurate topic-driven surveys and automated compliance change management. Winnow catalogs over 80,000 individual state and federal law requirements maintained by an experienced team of attorneys and professionals. Winnow delivers compliance solutions for mortgage, auto financing, credit cards, banking, privacy, cybersecurity, and more. Its recent Winnow AI addition provides lightning-fast answers to basic legal questions that leverage the attorney-reviewed content already in Winnow.

In 2024, Winnow was awarded Best RegTech Solution at the Finovate Awards and won in the Regulatory, Governance, and Compliance Technology category at the Legalweek Leaders in Tech Law Awards. HousingWire named Winnow to its HousingWire Tech100 Mortgage list.


Advancements in iManage AI Set New Standard in Delivering Smarter, Faster, Safer Legal Work

Powerful updates to Ask iManage, Insight+ empower customers to leverage AI in a practical, frictionless, and secure way

 

iManage, the company dedicated to Making Knowledge Work™, today unveiled further developments to its advanced AI strategy—an embedded, comprehensive approach that helps knowledge workers leverage data more effectively, enhance search, and unlock institutional knowledge to drive smarter work and deliver value to their stakeholders in an efficient and safe way.

 

This strategic direction incorporates the application of AI across the platform to enable customers to be better prepared to use AI technologies with their proprietary data. It also alleviates repetitive and mundane tasks, be that email filing or automatic creation of signature packets enabling users to focus on more productive, high value tasks. Supporting these advancements iManage announced new releases of Ask iManage and Insight+, including the introduction of additional Gen AI capabilities.

 

Your AI-Powered Legal Assistant: Ask iManage

Launched in 2024, Ask iManage is an AI-powered assistant native to iManage Work, built to enhance how professionals work with documents, emails, and content. The latest release of Ask iManage introduces a guided actions interface making it easy for users to leverage the benefits of generative AI without the need to be experts in crafting prompts. Guided actions available today include:

 

  • Overview, to quickly see the main points of content
  • Extract, to grab exact text and data points from documents
  • Summarize, to generate summaries for specific topics within content
  • Analyze, to check if content meets certain requirements

 

Ask iManage already offers multi-document processing—the ability to run guided actions on multiple documents simultaneously. This capability is beneficial for tasks such as due diligence, compliance reviews, or remediation projects.

 

A newly introduced question library lets users browse a curated set of prompts and save, customize, and reuse prompts for personal or team use. Dynamic question suggestions provide real-time, context-aware examples tailored specifically to a user’s document.

 

Ask iManage is gaining momentum by delivering new value aligned with evolving user needs. It incorporates AI skills that can be seamlessly applied to documents and includes guardrails that enable users to easily verify the AI model’s output as necessary. For example, a key feature is the ability to provide evidence and help users navigate to the precise location within a source document to verify a response. Users also benefit from greater flexibility in how answers are formatted, such as tables or lists, and in exporting those answers to familiar formats like Word or Excel, reducing friction and saving valuable time.

 

Recognizing that training and adoption can be challenging, iManage developed the Wayfinder program. A consultative and high-touch customer engagement program to enable strong user adoption, the Wayfinder program supports customers in meeting their desired outcomes. Participation in the program continues to grow within the iManage customer base.

 

 The next evolution of Knowledge Search built on a Strong Data Foundation

 

iManage is leading the way in Knowledge Search with semantic and generative search experiences built on trusted grounding data in their knowledge base. Insight+, based on a hybrid search index with security policy at its core, enables innovative AI-powered search to support lawyers in the ways they want to work. Using natural language, it searches for generative responses to questions grounded in managed collections of the organization’s data, providing authoritative links to the underlying source content and document links.

 

Insight+ has continued to gain significant traction in the market, in part due to the features and enhancements that have been realized in the last year and now has more than 25,000 active users globally across law firms, tax and accounting practices, and corporate legal departments.

 

“AI is never about ‘AI for AI sake’—it’s about getting to better outcomes,” said Shawn Misquitta, EVP of Product Management at iManage. “Our continued investments in the platform – iManage Insight+ and Ask iManage – play a crucial role in helping customers realize value, while leveraging AI in a secure and responsible way. The market response and adoption globally validate our approach. We are committed to helping customers achieve pragmatic, pervasive, and responsible use of AI technologies, and we’re excited about the tremendous interest from our legal and corporate legal customers.”

 

iManage is at Legalweek 2025 in New York City, March 24–27. Visit us at Booth #2010 to explore how our latest innovations in AI-powered knowledge work are helping legal teams work smarter, more securely, and deliver greater client value. In addition to visiting the booth, join us for our iManage Roundtables in Concourse F:

 

  • The Role of KM in Advancing Knowledge Maturity on Tuesday, March 25, from 12:30 – 1:45 p.m. ET
  • Experience Insight+ Knowledge Search Firsthand on Wednesday, March 26, from 12:30 – 1:45 p.m. ET

We’re also hosting Meet the Experts drop-in sessions in Concourse F on both Tuesday and Wednesday from 2:00 – 4:00 p.m. ET. Stop by for one-on-one conversations with our team, get personalized guidance on Ask iManage and Insight+, and enjoy a coffee while you chat.

 

Don’t miss the opportunity to connect with our experts, experience the power of iManage AI solutions in action, and see how we’re shaping the future of AI-powered knowledge work.


Matter management has evolved beyond simple document tracking—it’s now a strategic necessity.

In today’s high-stakes legal environment, legal teams are expected to juggle compliance, collaboration, deadlines, and data—all while remaining agile and audit-ready. The need for an intelligent, centralized, and secure matter management solution is more urgent than ever.

In our latest blog, we break down:

  • What modern matter management really means
  • Why traditional tools fall short in today’s regulatory climate
  • How centralized systems can drive agility across departments
  • The critical role of compliance, audit trails, and data governance
  • What to look for in a future-ready matter management solution
  • How AI is beginning to shape smarter workflows and reviews

From cross-functional legal coordination to managing external counsel and streamlining communication, this article explores how your organization can elevate its matter management strategy for better control, reduced risk, and faster execution.

Whether you are in legal operations, compliance, or litigation support, this guide will help you build a scalable, auditable, and proactive approach to managing legal matters.

Read the full blog here:
https://www.knovos.com/blog/mastering-matter-management-strategy-for-agility-and-compliance/



Handling high-stakes cases that have a huge impact enterprise-wide, the in-house legal department is undeniably an integral part of the organization. And, given their relatively small size, one that punches above their weight. But historically, legal leaders have struggled to shift the perception of the legal department as a cost center. Legal matters are an inherently expensive part of business operations, but the core view of the legal function does not need to revolve around cost. It’s time for the conversation to move to the value the department delivers.

Siloed by traditional corporate culture, it can be challenging for General Counsel (GC) to demonstrate their team’s performance and communicate their impact. But now their function is being reimagined to operate as a data-driven, proactive company defender, requiring them to adopt a business mindset. This cultural reboot offers an opportunity for legal professionals to actively highlight their impact, shift outdated perceptions and demonstrate how they protect the business.

 

What does a legal department do and how is that changing?

Anecdotal evidence and formal studies tell us that legal departments are under pressure. Workloads are getting heavier. And their area of responsibility continues to broaden.

According to the 2024 ACC Chief Legal Officers Survey, which surveyed 669 Chief Legal Officers (CLOs) across 20 industries and 31 countries, 59% of respondents said their workload increased over the past year. The majority of CLOs were overseeing at least three additional corporate functions, such as areas like compliance, ethics, privacy and risk. Most CLOs reported having responsibility for helping to lead their company’s environmental, social and governance (ESG) and diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) strategies.

As their roles and responsibilities have evolved, in-house legal teams have innovated. New roles like Chief Legal Officer, Deputy General Counsel and Legal Operations Manager now lead these evolving functions, adapting the changing needs of modern organizations.

Corporate legal teams reimagined: 6 core in-house legal department functions

1. Contract management

Contracts are the bread and butter of a legal department’s day-to-day workload. They exist at every level of an organization — internally, such as employment contracts, and externally with suppliers and clients. They’re often processed in high quantities and require the attention of multiple departments.

The in-house legal department is also responsible for ensuring every contract is compliant with ever-changing laws and regulations. Small mistakes can result in significant consequences – financial, legal or reputational.

Contracts keep companies moving, both operationally and financially, minimizing exposure to costly risks.

2. Risk reduction

Identifying potential risks is just the initial step in risk reduction. The approach taken by in-house lawyers needs align with the risk appetite of the business: how much risk is the organization willing to take on? One with a higher risk appetite may chase bold growth opportunities despite higher levels of uncertainty. Whereas another, valuing stability, might be willing to sacrifice some growth for a safer path.

Different business sectors also face industry-specific risks. Where a counsel for a construction company has to handle risks related to land use permissions, their non-profit counterpart must ensure the security of donor and beneficiary data.

Understanding an organization’s risk appetite allows in-house counsel to gain clarity on how much risk is acceptable and where to draw the line. Legal teams can then assess, prioritize and reduce where necessary, striking a careful balance between potential threats and promising opportunities.

3. Intellectual property protection

Intellectual property (IP) in the form of patents, copyright and trademarks allow a business to earn recognition and financial gain from what it invented, created or developed. A corporate legal department helps organizations protect their intangible assets, while harnessing and exploiting the value of their IP.

Whether an organization needs to licence IP to a third party, monitor competitors, file a trademark application or manage cybersecurity, General Counsel are becoming increasingly involved in this critical area of business operations. They empower companies to maximize the potential of their IP portfolios, fitting into their overall business strategy and keeping these assets as powerful tools for competitive advantage.

4. Litigation

Traditionally, the role of in-house legal teams as the company’s first line of defense in litigation was more reactive…they’d get involved after a dispute escalated.

Today’s in-house counsel are expected to be proactive and implement strategies to anticipate and prevent potential litigation. They’re also involved in decisions about alternative dispute resolution such as mediation or arbitration to avoid costly court proceedings.

Compliance audits, advising on dispute resolution strategies and delivering training to other departments are just some of the ways modern in-house legal departments reduce the risk of costly disputes.

5. Employment law and labour issues

Often public, employment law disputes can affect an organization’s finances, brand and reputation. Working closely with the HR team, in-house counsel must proactively identify and mitigate potential risks, determining problem areas and taking steps to avoid problems down the line. Key areas include workplace safety, employee rights and termination.

Corporate legal departments now regularly review employment contracts, non-compete agreements and termination documents as well as navigate complex laws across jurisdictions for larger organizations. Teams are also called upon to conduct audits of employment practices and offer strategic advice for dispute avoidance or resolution.

6. Organizational and reputational management

Increasing regulatory pressures and social expectations mean General Counsel (GC) today face heightened organizational and reputational risks. As information travels faster through more channels, demands for corporate transparency are getting louder. Increasingly, C-suites are measuring success in terms of how actions and outcomes are perceived by major stakeholders and the wider public.

Geri Ann S. Baptista, a Vice President in a global strategic communications firm with 84 offices in 46 countries, said: “More law firms and in-house legal teams are partnering with public relations professionals as PR risk, along with legal risk, is factored into every major corporate action and reaction.”

Now more than ever, a company’s success in managing public opinion depends on a unified strategy that combines the strengths of legal and communications. Legal support is critical for companies devising clear, consistent crises response plans, which will allow legal directors and business leaders to take a structured and transparent approach when incidents occur.

Why legal departments must take ownership of demonstrating their value

General Counsel should not rely on their value being recognized spontaneously. How do you measure the value of a crisis averted? A well-drafted contract that minimizes future disputes? In-house legal teams need to take demonstrating their impact into their own hands.

Traditionally, legal departments were reactive, handling issues as they arose. However, today’s business landscape demands more. In-house counsel are expected to add strategic value and support organizational growth. Over a third of CLOs in the 2024 ACC Chief Legal Officers Survey believe their CEOs want them to sharpen their business acumen and industry knowledge. Additionally, more than 20 percent think their CEOs expect them to improve their financial skills. Meanwhile, business acumen, communication and executive presence are the top three skills that CLOs are seeking to develop for team members.

To understand future trends for these teams, KPMG consulted experts from their Legal Operations Transformation Services. A key forecast: in-house counsel will be assessed based on the value they generate. The experts predicted a legal team’s value would be established by assessing how well they protected the organization’s interests, whether by ensuring compliance with corporate law or avoiding litigation. This will go alongside tracking the revenue legal services drive. For instance, by protecting the company’s IP rights, the legal team can prevent revenue loss from infringement.

Sizing up success

The legal profession is undergoing a data-driven transformation. Brought on by the rise of legal technology, in-house counsel are beginning to focus on numbers and metrics to show their value. Data analytics enable legal operations professionals to analyze swathes of information, extract actionable insights and improve decision-making.

Thomson Reuters, in their three-part guide for legal departments to demonstrate their true value, emphasised: “The language of business is numbers, so smart in-house lawyers must speak that language fluently.”

A legal department must create strategic key performance indicators (KPIs) that effectively showcase its impact. For example, totalling the fines, penalties, damages and settlements paid by a company over a given period. A high quantum may indicate that legal professionals may be too conservative in their approach.

Beyond the numbers

Metrics provide a valuable snapshot but they do not tell the whole story. Alongside determining the quantum, an in-house legal team may also need to understand the root cause — whether it is their department, other business units or external factors. Were outdated contracts not revised to reflect changes in laws or requirements? Was published marketing misleading? Did a sudden change in government regulations put the company out of compliance without time to adapt? These factors are not easily captured in numerical data, yet they are equally important.

Some of the legal department’s most valuable benefits are hard to measure – building brand reputation, stronger business partnerships, stakeholder trust and proactive crisis management to name a few. Client feedback and surveys can offer insight into many of these benefits. This helps the legal team know where to focus, prioritize, improve and drive their impact.

Telling the story

As legal teams are pushed to do more with less, justifying resources and demonstrating impact on the company’s bottom line is particularly important. Investment in technology and an increasing availability of data puts corporate legal teams in a position to capture and analyze data more effectively. In turn, this allows legal professionals to communicate their success and value to the wider organization, utilizing reporting and data to visualize key information.

To communicate their value, legal departments should ensure data collection is comprehensive and the data collected is meaningful. Innovative matter management systems incorporate dashboards that can present this data in a compelling way, telling the story of the team’s performance, and highlighting key contributions over time.

These visual tools simplify complex information into easy-to-understand insights, ready to present at board meetings, the executive team or external stakeholders.

Showcase your legal department’s value with Dazychain

Dazychain offers a unified view of all legal work. By centralizing matters, contracts, billing and insights into a single platform, an in-house legal department can take a holistic approach, streamline workflows and automate routine tasks But this approach doesn’t just make the day-to-day operations easier. It helps your team demonstrate their impact effectively, uncovering valuable data-driven insights that can easily be shared. Book your demo today!

 

Interested in exploring Dazychain’s solutions?


Live Demos of Reveal’s New GenAI Review Technology Begin March 24, 2025, at Legalweek in New York – Showcasing the Combined Power of AI and Intuitive Attorney Workflows

CHICAGO (March 24, 2025)Reveal, the global provider of dual eDiscovery and investigation platforms powered by a single, unified AI engine, announced today the rollout of its full GenAI review offering, redefining how legal professionals handle document review using advanced generative artificial intelligence. Officially launching this summer with its formal brand name, Reveal’s GAI-enhanced review technology expertly combines lawyer-intuitive workflows with powerful GenAI to deliver unprecedented assistance, speed, transparency, and cost-effectiveness.

“Legal professionals have been forced to adapt their natural workflows to fit technology limitations for far too long,” said Wendell Jisa, Founder and CEO of Reveal. “Reveal’s approach to AI review flips that equation. We’ve built a solution that intelligently assists lawyers throughout the entire review process—transforming document review from a bottleneck into a strategic advantage.”

With its upcoming summer launch, Reveal further strengthens its leadership in developing AI solutions tailored for legal workflows, cementing its position at the forefront of legal technology innovation. As the creators of Brainspace, Reveal AI and its GenAI search tool ASK, this latest advancement reinforces Reveal’s status as the global leader in AI-driven legal technology.

The new GenAI Review technology directly addresses the most common pain points legal teams face in the review process:

  • Eliminates GenAI Blackboxes: Transparent Prompt™ technology provides immediate visual feedback on responsiveness definitions, giving lawyers confidence and control over AI decision-making.
  • Optimizes Collaboration: GenAI Active Learning (GAL) enables seamless switching between AI-assisted review, side-by-side collaboration, and traditional approaches.
  • Enhances Defensibility: Document-level explanations foster a new era of technology assisted insights.
  • Removes Technical Barriers: Intuitive onboarding guides users with automatic calibration suggestions that eliminate the “cold-start” problem typical of other AI systems.
  • Controls Costs: Smart AI deployment analyzes only the documents that require generative AI, keeping the process defensible, flexible, and cost-effective at any scale.
  • Expands AI Flexibility: Provides users with customizable levels of AI integration, allowing for tailored workflows that balance automation and human oversight—ensuring adaptability across diverse legal review needs.

“Our decade-long expertise on building user-friendly AI solutions for the eDiscovery industry is even more important today, when the technology barrier to entry is low and users are looking for intuitive solutions that supplement and easily integrate into their proven workflows,” Jisa added. “This technology further advances the democratization of legal practice by enabling case teams to focus more effectively on their clients’ core objectives while enhancing accuracy and reliability in outcomes.”

With its upcoming summer launch, Reveal further strengthens its leadership in developing AI solutions tailored for legal workflows, cementing its position at the forefront of legal technology innovation. As the creators of Brainspace, Reveal AI and following the 2024 launch of ASK, this latest advancement reinforces Reveal’s status as the global leader in AI-driven legal technology.

Reveal has revolutionized the legal industry by developing a scalable and adaptable ecosystem supported by two industry-leading platforms, each underpinned by the same powerful AI engine. Reveal is fundamentally transforming how legal professionals, from Fortune 500 companies to government agencies, leverage advanced AI technology to drive the eDiscovery process.

For more information about Reveal’s AI-powered eDiscovery platforms, visit www.revealdata.com. For more information about Reveal’s AI review offering or to schedule a live demonstration at Legalweek in New York, March 24 – 27, 2025, visit www.revealdata.com/ai-review.

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About Reveal

Reveal is a leading AI-powered platform for eDiscovery, document review, legal hold and investigations. The company has a deep history in driving the adoption of legal automation, which is underpinned by its leading processing technology, visual analytics, and artificial intelligence capabilities. Reveal’s software combines technology and human guidance to transform structured and unstructured data into actionable insight. We help organizations, including law firms, corporations, government agencies, and intelligence services, uncover more useful information faster by providing a world-class user experience and AI technology that is embedded within every phase of the eDiscovery process.


CHICAGO (March 24, 2025)Reveal, the global provider of dual eDiscovery and investigation platforms powered by a single, unified AI engine, announced today the rollout of its full GenAI review offering, redefining how legal professionals handle document review using advanced generative artificial intelligence. Officially launching this summer with its formal brand name, Reveal’s GAI-enhanced review technology expertly combines lawyer-intuitive workflows with powerful GenAI to deliver unprecedented assistance, speed, transparency, and cost-effectiveness.

 

“Legal professionals have been forced to adapt their natural workflows to fit technology limitations for far too long,” said Wendell Jisa, Founder and CEO of Reveal. “Reveal’s approach to AI review flips that equation. We’ve built a solution that intelligently assists lawyers throughout the entire review process—transforming document review from a bottleneck into a strategic advantage.”

 

With its upcoming summer launch, Reveal further strengthens its leadership in developing AI solutions tailored for legal workflows, cementing its position at the forefront of legal technology innovation. As the creators of Brainspace, Reveal AI and its GenAI search tool ASK, this latest advancement reinforces Reveal’s status as the global leader in AI-driven legal technology.

 

The new GenAI Review technology directly addresses the most common pain points legal teams face in the review process:

 

  • Eliminates GenAI Blackboxes: Transparent Prompt™ technology provides immediate visual feedback on responsiveness definitions, giving lawyers confidence and control over AI decision-making.

 

  • Optimizes Collaboration: GenAI Active Learning (GAL) enables seamless switching between AI-assisted review, side-by-side collaboration, and traditional approaches.

 

  • Enhances Defensibility: Document-level explanations foster a new era of technology assisted insights.

 

  • Removes Technical Barriers: Intuitive onboarding guides users with automatic calibration suggestions that eliminate the “cold-start” problem typical of other AI systems.

 

  • Controls Costs: Smart AI deployment analyzes only the documents that require generative AI, keeping the process defensible, flexible, and cost-effective at any scale.

 

  • Expands AI Flexibility: Provides users with customizable levels of AI integration, allowing for tailored workflows that balance automation and human oversight—ensuring adaptability across diverse legal review needs.

 

“Our decade-long expertise on building user-friendly AI solutions for the eDiscovery industry is even more important today, when the technology barrier to entry is low and users are looking for intuitive solutions that supplement and easily integrate into their proven workflows,” Jisa added. “This technology further advances the democratization of legal practice by enabling case teams to focus more effectively on their clients’ core objectives while enhancing accuracy and reliability in outcomes.”

 

Reveal has revolutionized the legal industry by developing a scalable and adaptable ecosystem supported by two industry-leading platforms, each underpinned by the same powerful AI engine. Reveal is fundamentally transforming how legal professionals, from Fortune 500 companies to government agencies, leverage advanced AI technology to drive the eDiscovery process. 

 

For more information about Reveal’s AI-powered eDiscovery platforms, and Reveal’s GenAI Review offering or to schedule a live demonstration at Legalweek in New York, March 24 – 27, 2025, visit www.revealdata.com


TrueLaw will be live at Booth 1212.  Come experience AI Narratives™ in action and see how it converts massive amounts of data into an interactive memo with actionable insights – in mere minutes!

Panel Alert – 11:30 AM Tomorrow!
 “From Vision to Reality: Building Proprietary AI Agents of, by, and for Lawyers”

Tired of clunky prompt engineering? This session is for you. We’ll break down why proprietary AI agents – trained on your legal expertise – are more powerful, precise, and scalable than generic AI models.

Learn how to:

  • Train AI that truly understands legal nuance
  • Improve workflow efficiency in Litigation, Investigations and eDiscovery
  • Monetize AI built for complex legal work, not one-size-fits-all solutions

Let’s talk AI, the future of law, and how we can make legal work smarter. See you at Booth 1212 and the panel!